www.revotewa.com
Just got a note, www.revotewa.com is live. As the web site says,
Revote Washington has been created in response to a true “crisis of democracy” facing all of us in Washington: a Governor’s election that has produced no clear victor at a time our state is in need of mandate for strong and decisive leadership in Olympia.
However, I liked the way Jim Keough said it in his email announcing the launch of the site to the GOP County Chairs:
Yet, there is almost no way to resolve many of the questions to the point that the people of Washington will feel confident that who is determined the winner actually received the most amount of legal votes. On top of these questions, there are the many Washington residents who are proudly serving in our military who were never given the opportunity to vote in this election.
In my opinion a revote won't fly, but I'm certainly curious in how it goes. Frankly, I think the obvious cheating will lead to a Senator Rossi when Cantwell is up for re-election.
Josh Poulson
Posted Friday, Dec 31 2004 08:16 PM
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I firmly believe that we should start all over and vote again--it is absolutely ridiculous the way the Governor's ballots have been messed up and a new vote should make it valid. Thank you
Mary Esther Kelly
Posted Tuesday, Jan 4 2005 10:11 AM
What with all of the irregularities in this election and the selection of only the pro-democratic counties to be recounted, a new election for governor should be held. That that more votes than registered voters in certain counties in itself should be cause for a new election.
William E. Epard
Posted Wednesday, Jan 5 2005 09:55 AM
I'm beginning to agree that a revote is the only way to rectify the situation. From what I see on Sound Politics every day there's more than enough mistaken or invalid procedures in just King County to invalidate the election results.
Let me encourage everyone visiting here (several hundred at last count) to sign the petition. If we want validity in our results, we should have a clean election first.
Josh Poulson
Posted Wednesday, Jan 5 2005 09:59 AM
boo hoo if i can't win the election legitimately i'll ask the state to pay for a revote
Bert
Posted Wednesday, Jan 5 2005 12:18 PM
Bert, are you saying that Christine Gregoire should call for a revote too? After all, she didn't win the election legitimately if there's all these questions of impropriety.
Before this turns into a name-calling contest, I would like to see more substantive explanations for the problems that have been discovered other than “provisional voters accidentally mixed over a thousand of their ballots with the regular ones.”
I will not approve any more “boo hoo” comments.
Josh Poulson
Posted Wednesday, Jan 5 2005 12:25 PM
My mom died 9/96 and my dad 6/97. To this date I get their absentee ballots mailed to me though I have asked King County to delete their name: they are dead. They have missed at least two presidential elections, which by itself should have them removed as a registered voter. I have saved all the ballots unopened as proof they were not used. King County Elections and the Democrats have committed FRAUD. The system needsd to be FIXED, and the election MUST be redone.
Soap Lake
Posted Wednesday, Jan 5 2005 06:14 PM
At this point, the only fair way to know who is the legitimate governor is to have a runoff vote. Also please fix the system for the future so we can once again believe in the system.
Jfack Marler
Posted Wednesday, Jan 5 2005 06:36 PM
With all the information on mistakes made and when two countings came up with one winner and then the third count comes up with an other winner and there are mistakes that are coming out such as dead people voting, people voting twice and more votes than registered voters this election smells. We need a revote to get a ture winner.
Maria Muhlebach
Posted Friday, Jan 7 2005 09:32 AM
I firmly believe a revote is needed. No matter who comes out winner in a revote, at least they would win more fair and square. I cannot understand how a candidate that won only one out of 3 different counts is determined a winner!!!Come on---when I went to the old school the best 2 out 3 was the winner!!! What has happened to that?
Linda Waldon
Posted Friday, Jan 7 2005 09:51 AM
I believe the reason that Gregoire is heading to Olympia Wednesday is because state law directs that the hand recount is the most accurate of the three methods: original vote, machine recount and hand recount.
Josh Poulson
Posted Friday, Jan 7 2005 09:59 AM
I did a little peeking by doing a whois on networksolutions.com for revotewa.com. The domain is owned by:
gilpin group
ay7wa2jc76s@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: REVOTEWA.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
Phone: 570-708-8780
You can find out more about the gilpin group here:
http://www.thegilpingroup.com
See that the president is 'Sharon Gilpin'? I googled her and found this article that was written when Rossi was the winner:
"Rossi's transition staff plans to continue tours after Christmas, said Sharon Gilpin, with the transition team."
from here:
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/tch/local/story/5935699p-5842263c.html
So really the motivation behind the website isn't what you think (fair election), it's really about someone losing a job and being pissed off about it.
I really really really think there should be a recount, but since I don't see a privacy policy anywhere on the site, more than likely the names collected there will be used for evil in the future. I am 100% positive that this company will sell the list they accumulate to whomever wants to buy it.
Politics suck if you ask me. So much deception.
anon
Posted Friday, Jan 7 2005 05:47 PM
Yes,a revote is needed to determine the true winner. Voters also need to make up their own mind,and not just follow the News Media with their opinions.
The system needs to be fixed;so we can believe in it again.
Elvi
Posted Friday, Jan 7 2005 07:00 PM
Jacqueline Jehle
Posted Friday, Jan 7 2005 07:41 PM
Just because Republicans paid for a web site doesn't make it a vast right-wing conspiracy. Isn't it enough to know that felons and dead people voted and that mistakes of a magnitude great enough to swing the election happened, and the best way to correct it is to do it right?
Josh Poulson
Posted Friday, Jan 7 2005 09:04 PM
I vote for a re-vote in the state of Washington.
Shirley Gundlach
Posted Saturday, Jan 8 2005 09:26 AM
I think a revote is needed now to restore the election process. there have too many irregularities to make Gregiore the honest govenor
Allen G. Suter
Posted Sunday, Jan 9 2005 08:07 AM
I am in favor of a revote for govenor.look what all of the voting frauds and irregularities in Florida got us in the 2000 election. Does Gregiore want the same kind of questions carried with her through her term in office.revote in washington now.
Mary Louise Suter
Posted Sunday, Jan 9 2005 08:12 AM
The inconsistencies in the numbers of ballots counted and then "re" counted makes this whole process suspect. There's a log at most polling places that says "X" number of people voted so there should be "X" ballots to count. How do you "find" ballots still in the machines weeks later? Ditto the ballots found in mail trays? Nope, I don't believe in any of it any more, it's all just too convenient; I want a re-vote.
Dennis
Posted Sunday, Jan 9 2005 12:39 PM
4 million dollars to do it all wrong AGAIN? Come on..lets spend the 4 million to FIX the system instead, THEN do a REAL vote. Gary will stay until its settled, he said as much. If its broken FIX IT ! Isn't this re vote sort of like beating a dead horse?
Lolita Gonzales
Posted Monday, Jan 10 2005 10:22 AM
Would this re vote also be the fifth vote regarding the monorail?
Chris S.
Posted Monday, Jan 10 2005 11:03 AM
If there's anything disingenuous about the process it is the subtle push for a run-off election between the front-runners, leaving the libertarian out of the race. Such a change would definitely garner Rossi more votes, although Gregoire would also get more. In my experience, libertarians go slightly more R than D. (Of course, I'm also a libertarian that went strongly R this past year because I split with most of the Libertarian Party folks on the issue on the War on Terror.)
Josh Poulson
Posted Monday, Jan 10 2005 11:04 AM
I vote for a re-vote for govenor for Washington State.
Lyndia Ramsey
Posted Monday, Jan 10 2005 08:57 PM
Hmm, let's see, convicted felons and dead people voting in King County seems to make the difference in the third count. To most intelligent people, this would be a tad suspicious. Why does King County consider itself to be the "deciding factor" of Washington State in this race? The vast majority of the counties in Washington were won by Rossi. No secrets there. A revote is the only option. Maybe if Gregoire's previous "tiny little error" that cost the taxpayers $17 million hadn't happened, the money would have already been there to do this.
JAM
Posted Tuesday, Jan 11 2005 02:11 PM
Seems to me that as the first count was begining that Cristine said "that they were going to count untill she had won"! Hmmm, seems prophetic dosen't it? Perhaps a grand fraud plan? Sounds like a Chicago plan, "vote early and vote often"
ron
Posted Wednesday, Jan 12 2005 11:09 AM
Not only is a revote justified but a complete overhaul in the qualifing and counting system should be mandated by this expierence especially for King County. A total "Hands-off the Ballot" should be adopted and all votes counted electronically only. Also Provisional votes invite fraud and should be eliminated. If qualaifed voters don't have the time to vote at thier respective precinct or request an Absentee Ballot then you don't vote...plain and simple.
Frank Chaddock
Posted Wednesday, Jan 12 2005 01:49 PM
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